Just the FAQs
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Kirby outside his London concept: The Texas Embassy Cantina. |
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Kirby Design's clients seem to credit your success in designing bars and restaurants
to "what a good listener" you are, and how you are always open to their ideas.
Is that all it takes?
I wish it was that easy. While I'm glad to learn that I'm considered a good
listener, there's a lot more to it than that. Most of the time, the majority
of our clients don't really have all that clear an idea about what it is they
actually want, in terms
of atmosphere --
which is why they come to us. Sure,
they know they want a Mexican restaurant, so they want it to look Mexican, or
a steak house, and they want it to look "steaky." Beyond that, though, they
can be pretty vague.
Which
is fine with me, because we don't really design for the clients anyway; we design
for their prospective customers -- the demographic they're trying to attract.
For instance, do they want a Mexican restaurant that attracts a college crowd,
or a family crowd? Is the steak place or whatever going for the serious 'business-dinner'
clientele, or is it going to be one of those casual places where they cut your
tie off if you wear one in the door? Of course one of the first things we look
at is their basic menu plan to give us an idea of who their customers are going
to be. Once we've helped them focus on their prospective 'core clientele,' then
we can start coming up with some solid ideas and sketches, doing the research....
That's the other thing your
clients mention -- your intensive research.
Research is a big part of it. It always helps for me to
physically see something tangible to help get focused on
my goal, in terms of what I want to accomplish visually.
For
example, when we did El
Pescador, I went to South Beach in Florida to look at,
study and take pictures of Tropical Art Deco. From that
starting point, I was able to come up with something unique.
Same thing with Tia's, and again with Don
Pablo's. I was riding around in Monterey, Mexico working
on another project when I came up with the concept for Don
Pablo's which was creating an outdoor courtyard feel, complete
with billboards, trees, storefronts,etc.
It was your commitment to authenticity
at Don Pablo's that caught the attention of the Texas Embassy
Cantina folks, right?
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Yep, that and a place we had just finished called Tijuana Johnny's (at right). And for the Cantina's turn of the century border town look, I went back to Monterey -- but this time to an old Colonial section of town that was about to be torn down. The streets were all blocked off and the buildings condemned, getting ready for new construction. I spent several days walking around taking pictures of walls, lettering, finishes, window, doors and so on.
Authenticity
is not only important to me personally, but it's also real helpful to the other
artists and craftsmen we bring in on these projects: Things go a lot faster
if we can hand them photos and samples of the actual material from these places
while we're telling them what we want in the way of a particular "look."
Replaying the mental tapes here,
trying to come up a description of what constitutes the 'Rex
Kirby Design Look,' and frankly, not having much luck...
That's because there isn't one. What we do is new looks,
new concepts, and one of the things I pride myself on is
that I have no particular look, no preference for Art Deco
over Modern or Traditional or High Tech or whatever. I'm
very eclectic and versatile. A lot of people, familiar with
our work at, say, Don Pablo's or The
Park Cafe in the Hotel in Port Arthur, think of it as
being high-contrast and colorful. That's not especially
true, I am just as happy working with muted hues when the
situation calls for it.
An example would be...?
Well, take for example Kirby's
Steakhouse (no relation) which has a somewhat subtle
color scheme. It was one of my favorite projects because
we had just finished doing the Texas Embassy Cantina in
London, and so being able to come back here for my next
project in my own neighborhood (the Lakewood area of Dallas)
was a real treat.
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More about Kirby's Steakhouse |
For Kirby's (right), the first thought I had was an image of James Dean from Giant.
What I wanted was Texas Chic, but with some of the feel of Lakewood mixed in. And of course I wanted to be respectful of the history of the place and of the 'old' Kirby's tradition from the time when it was that great old Fifties place with the beehive-hairdo waitresses just up the street.
I wanted to reflect both the fact that it was back in a newer and more modern incarnation, yet not cut the ties to the old place.
We used touches of limestone and sandstone, materials which are common in Lakewood. As for the history, we wound up with a whole wall of photographs and memorabilia from the original Kirby's. I love that wall, and the ties to the old Kirby's.
But it is true that I've spent a lot of time in other countries over the years, and that I sure can use bold colors, and a lot of colors you wouldn't ordinarily think would work together, but do. You see that a lot more in other cultures -- Italy, Greece, Mexico, South America and places like that.
One thing that comes with experience as an artist learning
to make colors work together is just a matter of having
the courage to do it. One just gets better and better at
using the colors, because the more you do, the more you
learn, and the bolder you're willing to get -- but we only
use them when it appropriately serves the case at hand.
You were born and raised in West Texas,
and got your degree from Texas Tech. Meaning no offense,
but West Texas isn't exactly the first place a person would
think to go to look for an artist or good colorist. Paris,
it ain't.
Well, I guess I was just born an artist, because I started
drawing as soon as I could hold a pencil or crayon. My mother
would buy these really big pads, and I'd just draw for hours.
I started oil painting when I was barely five years old:
I was playing with color before I was even aware what the
word "color" meant.
And this is kind of interesting: A few years back, I was
helping my parents move from Odessa (or West Texas) to retire
locally, and my sister and I were looking through the attic
of our old house and found all these old pads filled with
drawings of mine from when I was a child. And the interesting
thing is, almost all of them were from a very unusual perspective,
for a little kid: They were drawn from above, from a bird's-eye
view. In other words, I was basically drawing floor plans
and layouts from the very beginning, almost from instinct.
I think it just came naturally to me.
What's next, professionally?
Nobody knows what's ever gonna be 'next,' but I can tell you what's current.
We're looking forward to going back to London to work with the Texas Embassy
Cantina designing a small private dining room. Of course we're still doing
bars and restaurants, but we're also branching out into hotels, casinos
and other kinds of public spaces as well. We're also currently working on
the lobby of the Holiday Inn/Select in Richardson (a suburb of Dallas) and
redesigning the public spaces and suites of the Holiday Inn Park Central
in Port Arthur. And then there's what I have come to think of as our 'life's
work' for Louie's Backyard in South Padre; it's an ongoing project that's
been underway for four years or more. It just keeps growing -- and it's
a huge place -- and they just keep on adding more wings. It's a lot of fun....